Where is SNI?

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    Steven
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    Steven
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    I’m watching via the additional channels on Sky Digi and they are just showing News at Ten with Chris and Viv.

    Is there a problem?

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    Newsroom
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    Yes Steven as u no i live in Dublin and after switching over to SkyNews the News at 10 came on normally with Chris andVivienne.

    Where is SNI-must be a technical fault–i wonder if it will go live l8r or maybe chris and viv might explain something?

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    Newsroom
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    Steven if Chris explains something can u post it?

    Cheers

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    SkyFanIreland
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    A power cut according to their own statement:

    Statement from Sky News Ireland re. last night’s 10.00pm news bulletin

    A major power failure prevented the broadcast of the Sky News Ireland 10.00pm service. The situation has now been resolved and Sky News Ireland fully expects to resume service tonight.

    Sky News Ireland’s 7.00pm service was available on Sky News Active throughout the night.

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    Steven
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    Well, what a blow that is? RTE and TV3 must be delighted.

    They don’t want that happening too often!

    #16977 Reply

    Newsroom
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    Yes,however,RTE regularly get power cuts(far too often)

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    DonnieDarko
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    Yes,however,RTE regularly get power cuts(far too often)

    Newsroom. This is the second time I’ve noticed you making claims about RTE that are completely untrue and wildy innacurate. The first was your claim that international stories do not recieve much prominence in RTE and almost never make the line up of top stories.

    Now it is this claim that RTE regularly get power cuts. So just how *regularly* do you reckon that is? maybe once a day… once a week? How often is *too often*? I have personally never (not one single time..EVER!!) witnessed the postponement of RTE news for any reason, powercut or otherwise. The station as a whole, very occasionally experiences some power problems, in the same way that you or I sitting in our homes, occasionally experience power problems, or that the BBC experience power problems. Maybe once/twice a year max.

    It’s really not that I have any vested interest in RTE or feel any loyalty to it, it’s more the fact that you insist on misrepresenting the reality of how things are in Irish broadcasting, in forums where certain people you’re addressing have to take you at your word since they don’t live in this country and rely on people like you for their information.

    Maybe in future you could try to put accuracy of information before dramatic headlines. Thankyou.

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    Forum Member
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    I totally agree with you DonnieDarko….. I was busy registering for the forum (Hi All, only discovered this forum the other day) when you took the words out of my mount.

    Maybe Newsroom needs a new TV, because he is obviously not seeing the same view of RTE as the rest of us!!!

    Don’t forget a UK story on Sky News (UK) is not an international story!!

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    Newsroom
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    I have worked inside the newsroom of RTE the last 3summers.

    During last summer,they had a massive 10 power failures(3 being on RTENEWS@9 o’clock)–fine,credit where it is due,THEY may not have been there own fault but hey 10 times in three months(June,July,August) is regular enough to me.

    Do u remember the time wen eileen dunne and john finnerty were presenting together 6.01 and everything went wrong?It was in papers -that WAS RTEs fault(I was a runner for that particular 6.01 news)

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    Newsroom
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    International stories-i said theuy have good coverage but by no means great!

    If you call 1 Washington correspondent and 2 European correspondents great international coverage with some1 in Iraq the odd time then fine but in my estimation Irish court cases,politics,stuff 2 do with the north takes precedence on RTE News.

    Foreign stuff is packaged 75% of the time from Dublin.

    PS: RTE have in the past have good international coverage ,eg,kosovo crisis was excellently covered by the noe Foreign Editor,Mags Ward.

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    DonnieDarko
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    newsroom+–>(newsroom)
    During last summer,they had a massive 10 power failures(3 being on RTENEWS@9 o’clock)–fine,credit where it is due,THEY may not have been there own fault but hey 10 times in three months(June,July,August) is regular enough to me.

    Hmm, they must have been the very 10 nights I didn’t watch the news that year. Well, I actually don’t sit in especially to watch RTE’s 9 o’clock news, and I don’t have hard statistics, so I suppose what you say is possible (though within the outer limits of credibility). But from a viewers perspective there really isn’t any greater degree of f*** ups between RTE and any other station providing news that I can watch on my tv.

    After 40+years providing news, if RTE really were as incompetent and unprofessional as you suggest then it wouldn’t say very much about us as a country would it.

    newsroom+–>(newsroom)
    Do u remember the time wen eileen dunne and john finnerty were presenting together 6.01 and everything went wrong?It was in papers -that WAS RTEs fault(I was a runner for that particular 6.01 news)

    Umm no, I actually don’t. So what happened then, did the set collapse around them or something? I’d have loved to see something like that!!

    I expect that the occasional, isolated incident is forgiveable though. I’m sure most news services have had some kind of a f*** up or other. I was reading last week in one of the papers abput SKY’s first week broadcasting news in the UK and that sounded quite funny still… it looks bad an entire programme just not happening at all in the first week. It makes you wonder if the powercut excuse was just a cover up for some in-fighting, where Grainne Seoige locked herself in the toilets in tears, refusing to go on

    Well I hope not. Since despite all of the negativity about the new service and somewhat poor viewer ratings for the first 3 days, I personally think SNI has the potential to rise above the competition and give us the kind of news bulletins we really want in an interesting and dynamic way.

    So LONG LIVE SNI!!

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    DonnieDarko
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    humm, my quotes fooked up that time

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    DonnieDarko
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    If you call 1 Washington correspondent and 2 European correspondents great international coverage….

    Well no, *great* is not a word I’ve ever linked with RTE, but adequate, sufficient, good, healthy, .. those kind of words are fine. I hope that SNI can achieve greatness though, and certainly the advantage of having access to numerous foreign correpondents is a big plus.

    I do worry a bit though, that a lot of the correspondents won’t really understand their audience well enough. For example, the live link to entertainment correspondent in Cannes on Wednesday, she mentioned that there were lots of big Irish names there, but no Colin Farrell. I doubt she would be aware who some of the smaller Irish actors are, who we would know about and would be interested in hearing about, and who we would hear about if it was a story by RTE etc…

    I worry a bit about that aspect of SNI, anyone else have any comments on that factor?

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    Newsroom
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    Yeah i see wat ur saying.

    RTE can be great,can be crap however they should be much better.

    Every word i said was true and wen eileen and john were presenting first the autocue went then the preview screen turned in self off in the producers set-then the screen went blank and then hardcore dance/rave music got played from the breakup until the end of the bullein.

    PPL were complaining the next day in papers etc. However,the choice of music was extremely starange.

    Any way ,arguments aside,hopefully SNI will put more pressure on rte to make more effort/

    rte have said that for the june elections they plan on a “huge pewrformance from ireland’s national broadcaster”

    By the way any ppl from UK or otherwise that want to judge there own views on RTEs performace can visit http://www.rte.ie/news to view the 1,6.01 and 9 bulletins.

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    Steven
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    I do worry a bit though, that a lot of the correspondents won’t really understand their audience well enough. For example, the live link to entertainment correspondent in Cannes on Wednesday, she mentioned that there were lots of big Irish names there, but no Colin Farrell. I doubt she would be aware who some of the smaller Irish actors are, who we would know about and would be interested in hearing about, and who we would hear about if it was a story by RTE etc…

    I worry a bit about that aspect of SNI, anyone else have any comments on that factor?

    Absolutely, I saw a couple of reports of Georgie Arnold and she didn’t seem to have a proper grip on what she was supposed to talking about. I learnt that there were some industry workers protesting, that, as you’ve already mentioned, Colin Farrell wouldn’t be there and that Brad Pitt wore a “skirt” in his latest film.

    Grainne was talking to Martin Brunt the other evening about the Maxine Carr situation and the way he was talking, which made complete sense to me because I live here, wasn’t adjusted for the Irish audience (referring to the Home Office and such like that Joe Average viewer in Ireland may not rocognise).

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    Steven
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    By the way any ppl from UK or otherwise that want to judge there own views on RTEs performace can visit http://www.rte.ie/news to view the 1,6.01 and 9 bulletins.

    Yes, Newsroom suggested I did that on another thread. I did, and it was a very interesting insight.

    However, I have to agree with the sentiments of Damo. You were claiming RTE’s international coverage to be quite poor and even said that they didn’t really concentrate of intl stories. From what I have seen of the RTE bullitens this isn’t true.

    #16988 Reply

    Newsroom
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    O they do cocentrate but there reporters are reporting on FROM IRELAND!

    eXCEPTIONS include from Washington and europe,and the odd time from somewhere”exotic” like Johannesburg or Baghdad or Israel.

    Sorry if i was not clear.

    Any comments any1 on this evenings SNI7o’clock bulletin?

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    DonnieDarko
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    Grainne was talking to Martin Brunt the other evening about the Maxine Carr situation and the way he was talking, which made complete sense to me because I live here, wasn’t adjusted for the Irish audience (referring to the Home Office and such like that Joe Average viewer in Ireland may not rocognise).

    Well, I think 99% of Irish people watching SNI would be very familiar with all of the UK stuff. Apart from a lot of UK news being reported on home news channels, you must remember that even for terresatrial tv, the vast majority of people recieve all of the UK channels (BBC1/2 CH4 UTV/ITN)… and it has been this way for decades. Whereas UK people don’t really know much about what is going on in Ireland.

    I think a similar situation would be the US and Canada. The US has a much larger population than Canada, and people in Canada know and understand exactly what is going on in the US, know all about their celebrities, even minor celebrities, know all about their politics, their scandals, their crime events. Basically Canadians know as much about America as most Americans do, if not more. Whereas, the other way around, not many Americans are interested, or very aware of Canadian culture or current affairs/entertainment in Canada.

    I think it’s a similar situation here between the UK and Ireland. The problem occurs if the US decided to provide a news service for the Canadians, because for many US people, Canada is just a big blind spot, so apart from Alanis Morisette and a few other major bands and a couple of politicians, they know almost nothing.

    But anyway, this will only be a problem with UK correspondents reporting on something specifically of Irish interest I think, such as the Cannes item the other day.

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