ITV News Channel

Discussions on news and breaking news events including, BBC News, ITV News, Sky News
Easty
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Post by Easty » Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:00 pm

I have neverreally watched the ITV News Channel for a while and still believe it to be like the ITN news channel. However, since Mannion took it over it is looking much improved.

They have tried to make a Sky News Today programme with Alastair Stewart. Fair enough, it is rubbish because I don't like Alastairs rambling style.

In the afternoon - Mary Nightingale and Mark Austin anchor from 3 until 4. This was good because they took it very lightly and obiviously think them selves above the news channel. This is obivious when Mary Nightingale jsut walked off set at the end of a news wall presentation - even though the camera was still on her.





However, ITV is still rubbish, but ir is improving - what do you think ?

fishcakes
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Post by fishcakes » Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:20 pm

I'll have to trust you on this one, Easty.

I'm a SkyNews lad through and through!

Easty
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Post by Easty » Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:25 pm

I'll have to trust you on this one, Easty.

I'm a SkyNews lad through and through!






ITV is no where near as good as Sky - possibly to do with budgets

Tellyguru
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Post by Tellyguru » Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:47 pm

I am a huge Sky fan but I do think the ITV news channel beats SKY on some areas. For example, the SKY videowall looks tired compared to the ITV News channel and gradually when there's a major breaking story ANYWHERE in the UK then ITV will get to it quicker and be more on top of it that SKY. Also I think ITV1's correspondents are much better than SKY's. : Robert Moore is better than Ian Woods or Emma Hurd, Bill Neely is excellent as is multi award winner John Irvine, James Mates, Penny marshall e.t.c... they're much more rounded correspondents.



SKY does win when it comes to resourcing major stories... however, it has to be said when it comes to viewers and not anoraks "do the viewers really care? they want to see news, sport, business that they can digest in an easy way... and they don't care if one channel is quicker with breaking news than another.

Newsroom
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Post by Newsroom » Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:45 am

Tellyguru,

You can't possibly compare Sky News with the news on ITV1, they're a completely different ball game. Sky News is rolling and breaking news, whereas the ITV1 news is a bulletin. They have time to prepare for the evening or lunchtime slots and can better rehearse and investigate, and the reporters will 'seem' a lot more on the ball.

Sky News is all about breaking news and when it comes to this, Sky do it best. Breaking and rolling news is basically what 24 hour news channels are about and this is why Sky beats BBC News twenty-bore and the ITV news channel. And lets face it, its not even ITV, its ITN!

The newswall does not look tired by any accounts...at least it's actually there! The entire ITV news set is just a circular green room! Sky is live, its real and you really feel that you are immersed in the news. You really get the impression you're part of the newsroom. ITV's just fake! The presenters must feel like complete idiots talking to a big green wall!

Just my two pennies worth!

Ben

Pete19
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Post by Pete19 » Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:48 am

Tellyguru,

And lets face it, its not even ITV, its ITN!











Ben

Around 70% of ITN is actually owned by ITV plc.

That was one of the main reason's five went with Sky and never re-newed their contract with ITN!

And I tend to agree with Tellyguru! Sky need to pick up the pace a bit!

Newsroom
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Post by Newsroom » Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:36 pm

Pete19,

I actually work for ITV and I can tell you that they do not own 70% of ITN...its a lot less than that. Whatever the figures, they are still a seperate company. The point I was trying to make was that Sky News makes Sky News (that includes Sky / BSkyB), the BBC makes BBC News, however a lot of ITV's news is made by ITN but just decorated with the ITV identity. They are seperate companies.

I think five went with Sky because they made them a better deal! They also already use Sky News for the overnight news and it was another extension of this contract.

The main problem with Sky is that they were at one time incredibly innovative in their coverage, and for a long time they were unchallenged so they always looked very exciting and original. However now with so many news channels and the like it is becoming increasingly difficult to introduce new and exciting things. I do hope that virtual reality news sets are not the way forward...they do look crap!

I imagine we'll be in for a few surprises in innovation etc. when Sky News gets it's new building!

Ben

NEWSBOY2
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Post by NEWSBOY2 » Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:28 pm

Well the presenters would look even bigger idiots if they couldn't be bothered to keep up the visual pretence. I think the major flaw of the ITV News studio is that there is no news room behind it so it lacks atmosphere and fusion. Comple virtual studios are somewhat a werid idea as most graphics can be imposed onto anything.

You get the impression of empytiness and distance which you don?t get either on Sky or News 24.

Easty
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Post by Easty » Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:06 pm

I can't wait till they try and upload new software to the ITV News set - and it all goes wrong! That would mean they would be stood in fromnt of a dull green board

MM2K
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Post by MM2K » Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:08 am

At the moment ITV plc owns 40% of ITN (before the Granada-Carlton merger, Granada owned 20%, and Carlton owned 20%).

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